Showing posts from November, 2006

@ the movies: The Nativity Story

Mary, Joseph and their faithful donkey taking a break on their long journey from Nazareth to Bethlehem for the census. 100 miles is nothing for us today but 2000 years ago that meant a trip by foot!

The Nativity Story opens in theaters on Friday, December 1, 2006.

I had the opportunity to see the film in a pre-release screening as a guest of Grace Hill Media. I recommend it highly.

For those who believe, the film will be a devotional experience amidst the busyness of the Christmas season reminding us what Christmas is truly about. For those who are skeptics, I hope they will still nonetheless the film and grasp the earthiness of the Christian story: God came to earth in the form of a baby to parents and people with dirty feet and rough hands.

Mary and Joseph growing closer while on the journey to Bethlehem.

The Bible account of the Nativity is very brief. The part the film covers can be found in Matthew and Luke.

The film has to engage in some speculation as to what the story was beyon…

Sports: UCLA vs. U$C Football Game this Saturday

The local sport talk radio is all about how big will USC's victory be and whether Karl Dorrell will get fired if the Bruins get blown out again.


I don't know if I heard it right but I think there was a radio commercial by H.D. Buttercup that said if UCLA wins the game, you can buy furniture for FREE at their store!

UPDATE: I heard the ad on the radio again so maybe it is for real... I think they said if you buy furniture up to $2000 worth and UCLA then wins on Saturday, you can get your money back.

UPDATE: The bet was if you buy $2000 or more and then if UCLA wins, you get a refund. This LA Times item says they are indeed tallying up the cost of the promotional as people came to the store on Sunday morning to get their refunds!


Pat Cowan will start at QB for UCLA in the big game on Saturday.


UCLA has received and accepted a bid to a third tier bowl, the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco.

The Emerald Bowl PR machine went into best face forward spin mode to make the game soun…

Culture: Why Marry?

I'm enjoying the occasional visit over to Boundless: the line.

Here is a recent item that caught my eye.

As a single guy, I do wonder if my views of marriage are excessively idealistic and thus may have made attainment of marriage an idol and essentially impossible?

Here are some excerpts from the blog post by Denise Morris:As I look at my own life and also the attitudes of my single friends, I have to agree with these sociologists. I think we have overly-idealized what marriage is and should be. We expect the person we marry to be perfect, we desire a romantic story to describe how we met, and we hold out forever in search of "the one." The idea of personal choice has been idolized in Western society, and I think it has definitely affected the way we think about marriage. It causes us to delay getting married until we think we'll be supremely happy with that choice.
Now, I am not saying that you should run out and marry the next person you meet. I do think th…

Devotional Thoughts: The kinder and gentler Paul

1 Thessalonians 3:6-13 is nice slice of life moment.

But Timothy has just now come to us from you and has brought good news about your faith and love. He has told us that you always have pleasant memories of us and that you long to see us, just as we also long to see you.

I would bet some people have the view of Saint Paul as this hard-nosed General Patton like character. There were definitely moments when he was INTENSE to the Nth degree. But reading this passage, we see the kinder and gentler Apostle Paul. It seems downright sappy!

Therefore, brothers, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. For now we really live, since you are standing firm in the Lord. How can we thank God enough for you in return for all the joy we have in the presence of our God because of you?

There might not be anything more delightful than to see other people grow. Not being a parent I don't have that experience in its fullness. However, in life, I've …

Sports: UCLA vs. USC - to sell or not to sell that is the question ...

I bought two tickets for UCLA-USC football game earlier in the year when prospects were still good for the Bruins. Alas, now, it is hard to find a UCLA alum football fan who wants to go to see what amounts to be a ritual sacrifice: USC to earn the favor of the BCS gods will kill the Bruins.

My guess is that "style" points will not be needed but since this is a rivalry game, nothing less than total demolition of the opposition is demanded by the faithful. I threw out a 56-0 score as a possibility in one of my prior posts over at my other blog where I have been posting since D-7 and will continue to do a least a daily post about the famed but now moribund rivalry.

Anyway, the question before me: do I sell the tickets?

They are selling above face value. It is highly likely that USC fans are buying up tickets UCLA fans are unloading.

I have not attended a UCLA vs. USC contest live in 24 years. Would I desire to see a blowout?

Or would I achieve some sense of liberterian satis…

Culture: What Divides Americans?

Why do we feel that America is getting more polarized?

We all have that vague or not so vague sense that that is true.

What is at the core of this?

(1) Faith in God - one part of America believes that God (of the Judeo-Christian variety) places moral obligations upon us while another part of America believes that religious belief is, at best, non-sense and, at worst, the source of all sorts of evil in the world.

(2) America's role in the world - one part of America believes that the United States is the new Roman Empire and the source of all sorts of evil in the world while another part still gets misty eyed when they sing The Star Spangled Banner and God Bless America and believes Americans though far from perfect do a lot of good in the world.

I heard this analysis this morning on Prager's radio show.

World: Iraq 3+ years later

I went back to the archives and found this item I posted giving my analysis of the impending war in Iraq. ed. note - I had to recompile the post to generate a permalink as it was such an old post. I made some minor edits but no changes in substance.

As a blogger, my past thoughts are "on record" and I felt it was time to re-visit this topic given what is happening in Iraq these days.

Back then I said ... If Bush wants to get re-elected in 2004, he should drop the war with Iraq and throw all his energy and political clout on turning the economy around. The polls tell him that Americans are concerned about the economy first and foremost. The only way the war will benefit Bush is if it is swift (probable), the WMDs get found (probable), post-war Iraq is rebuilt into a peaceful nation (doubtful before Nov. 2004) and the American people haven’t forgotten by election day (ask Bush41). Feeling lucky GW?If the Democrats had fielded a better candidate than John Kerry, it is quite pos…

Culture: National Park Visits Declining

Saw an interesting item over at the LA Times reporting a 20% decline in visits over the last 10 years.

Why is this happening?

Here are some excerpts:Agency officials admit that national parks are doing a poor job attracting two large constituencies - young people and minorities - causing concerns about the parks' continued appeal to a changing population.

A study commissioned by the park service and released in 2003 found that only 13% of the African Americans interviewed had visited a park in the previous two years.

For more than a year, the appropriations committee of the U.S. House of Representatives has been asking the park service to explain how it intends to attract more minorities to parks.
Meanwhile, the parks' most loyal visitors over the last several decades are vacationing elsewhere. Baby boomers are changing the way they play. Some of the more adventurous have embraced mountain biking and similar sports that are not allowed in many national parks. But …

Life: How people react to Christianity?

As a Christian who happens also to be a molecular biologist, I get very different responses from people upon finding out that I'm a Christian.

I think there have been four types of responses.

(1) I'm a Christian too! That's cool that you are in the sciences and a person of faith. This kind of respondant might then go on to say, sometimes people think faith means leaving your brain in neutral so it is nice to know that doesn't have to be the case. Christianity is thus a "true religion" to this person.

(2) That's cool you are a Christian. I think all roads lead to god and its good you believe in something. This person holds to "religious pluralism."

(3) That's cool you are a Christian but I think religions are just fairy tales but if those fairy tales make people do good and be happy than I'm all for it. This skeptic thinks of Christianity as a "useful fiction."

(4) How can you be a Christian? Religions are just lies and the so…

Devotional Thoughts: Keeping in touch

Checking out 1 Thessalonians 2:17-3:5.

The Bible is quite down to earth. The Old Testament is a collection of what happened to the people of Israel in their ups and downs of following God. The New Testament are the Gospels (records of Jesus teaching and deeds), Acts (activities of the early church), Letters (Paul and other early church leaders giving advice to churches and individuals) and Revelation (a vivid description of the battle between good and evil).

The passage I'm looking at today is a window into the lives of Paul and his concern for the group of followers. There is no high flying theology here (there is theology nonetheless) but what comes across is the daily grind of what it means to follow Jesus.

But we, brethren, having been taken away from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavored more eagerly to see your face with great desire. Therefore we wanted to come to you - even I, Paul, time and again - but Satan hindered us.

Rene's really loose paraph…

World: Mess in Lebanon

Was listening to Dennis Prager's radio show and telephone guest was Michael Young, opinion editor of the Daily Star, an English language newspaper published in Beirut.

Prager asked him a whole bunch of questions to get a handle on the situation over there.

The main ideas I got was that Lebanon's government is divided into pro- and anti-Syria factions. The Prime Minister is anti-Syria, the President is pro-Syria and there are 24 cabinent ministers with most being anti-Syria.

However, a government will be in constitutional collapse if 9 cabinet ministers depart from the government either by resignation (the entire pro-Syrian wing has resigned) and there have been assasinations of several anti-Syrian ministers.

Prager asked, why can't new ministers be named to replace those resigned and assassinated?

The reporter said, they must gain the approval of the pro-Syrian President!

As it stands, if two more ministers resign or are assassinated, the government will be constitutionally n…

Life: How not to misplace your car in the parking lot

Heard on the radio a tip for Thanksgiving shoppers: use your camera phone to take a picture of where your car is parked!

Life: Happy Thanksgiving Where Ever You Are!

Psalm 147:1-11

Praise the LORD!
For it is good to sing praises to our God;
for it is pleasant,and a song of praise is fitting.
The LORD builds up Jerusalem;
he gathers the outcasts of Israel.
He heals the brokenhearted
and binds up their wounds.
He determines the number of the stars;
he gives to all of them their names.
Great is our Lord, and abundant in power;
his understanding is beyond measure.
The LORD lifts up the humble;
he casts the wicked to the ground.

Sing to the LORD with thanksgiving;
make melody to our God on the lyre!
He covers the heavens with clouds;
he prepares rain for the earth;
he makes grass grow on the hills.
He gives to the beasts their food,
and to the young ravens that cry.
His delight is not in the strength of the horse,
nor his pleasure in the legs of a man,
but the LORD takes pleasure in those who fear him,
in those who hope in his steadfast love.

Sports: UCLA Wins Maui Invitational

UCLA defeats Georgia Tech to win the Maui Invitational.

UCLA looks pretty balanced with good guard play from Affalo and Collison and solid front line work by Mbah a Moute and Mata. Shipp still seems a bit tentative probably due to the fact that injury kept him out almost the whole season last year. The team is able to play 10 deep.

Only trouble spot tonight was poor free throw shooting.

The season looks promising! Go Bruins!

Culture: Evangelistic Atheists

Over at Boundless: the line there is a post about the call by atheists to show that belief in God should be challenged. Excerpt:Dr. Al Mohler explains that Dawkins isn't attempting to convince believers that they should no longer believe in God. "To the contrary," he says, "Dawkins is attempting a very different cultural and political move. He wants to make respect for belief in God socially unacceptable." Those of us in the biological sciences have know this for years. The argument essentially comes down to: science = good and true, religion = bad (or a harmless fairy tale) and false.

Sam Harris is the other evangelist for atheism that has garnered a lot of attention.

There was once a time when apologetics (defense of Christian faith) type of organizations believed they could try to convince those outside of Christianity to consider faith. I think their mission now is going to be more defensive in trying to help Christians who are tottering on their faith t…

Culture: Conservatives - kinder and sexier!

Saw this item by David Frum. Excerpts:You'll never know who will turn up in Washington to talk politics. On Wednesday, the city was graced by actress Eva Longoria, the sultry star of ABC's Desperate Housewives. Addressing an audience of Latino business leaders, she explained the wide appeal of her show: "Everyone on Wisteria Lane has the money of a Republican, but the sex life of a Democrat."

It's a pretty good joke -- but very poor sociology.Frum then proceeds to mention various studies that show that the various stereotypes are actually the opposite of what people perceive. He concludes:If we must have stereotypes, let's at least have accurate ones. Not only are conservatives sexier than liberals -- they are kinder too.Check out the whole thing.

Personal: Learning to give money

Recently met two of the writers behind the blog Boundless: the line while attending the God Blog Conference.

Came across this item on Boundless regarding Christians and their giving habits.

The writer, Denise Morris, quotes the following paragraph:If Christians had given the traditional 10 percent tithe of their income to their churches in 2004, instead of the 2.56 percent that they actually gave, there would have been an additional $164 billion available, according to a report released in October called "The State of Church Giving through 2004." If the churches chose to funnel just $70-$80 billion of that additional income to missions and humanitarian works, the basic needs of every person on the globe would be provided.Earlier this year, I sensed I needed to look at my giving practices. I made a commitment to increase it both in giving to the church as well as to other causes that help people in need. I started posting "non-profit" of the month features on this …

Devotional Thoughts: Worthy Walk

Taking a look at 1 Thessalonians 2:9-16 this morning.

The first part describes how Paul and his companions tried their best to do two thing: not be a burden to them and to spur them forward in living for God.

not being a burden

For you remember, brothers, our labor and toil: we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, while we proclaimed to you the gospel of God.

He was probably referring to avoiding being a financial burden on them. It is a sad reality of life today that some people feel that the church is just in business to pass the offering plate around to collect money or that the face of Christianity is the guy on television asking for money. For whatever reason, in the circumstances that Paul was in, he felt especially sensitive to the need to avoid any quid pro quo. We know he accepted financial gifts, see Philippians 4:10ff. It was probably those funds and his other labors that helped pay his bills.

Its a challenge for those who have accepted the opp…

Devotional Thoughts: A prayer for my middle school students

I serve as a volunteer in my church's youth group. It was a long time ago when I was in junior high! I'm over three times older than them. Yet, the journey of faith is about Jesus, whether you are young or old. In that regard, we are in the same boat.Lord, please help our young friends in their daily walk with you. Encourage them with the knowledge they don't walk on the school grounds alone. Help them to experience your working in their lives when they respond to your prompting to risk caring for another. Guard their hearts and minds from the lies that the world tosses their way. Prompt them to open the Word to seek wisdom. Cause them to look up to you in prayer for thanksgiving and help and praise and confession. Amen.

Sports: UCLA basketball season starts up tonight

Last year's run to the NCAA finals was a very pleasant surprise. They got a miracle win over Gonzaga in round two and got on a roll until they met a faster, bigger and more athletic team in Florida.

Expectations are probably a bit too high right now among fans rooting for the Blue and Gold of Westwood. Farmar left for the NBA and Hollins and Bozeman were crucial pieces to last year's success.

The cupboard is good but not without gaps.

The starting line-up is very young with four 2nd year players and 1 junior. Darren Collison will run the point. He brings more speed than Farmar but less offense. Arron Afflalo is the junior to provide leadership and offense and be the defensive stopper. Josh Shipp will also provide some offense. Hopefully, his injuries are all behind him. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (love that name!) will be the rebounding machine and will kick in some points too. At center will be a Moute's Cameroon countryman Alfred Aboya who was hampered last year by …

Blogging: Christian Carnival CXLVIII is UP

Christian Carnival CXLVII is being hosted by Diane at Crossroad: where faith and inquiry meet.

Christian Carnival is a weekly collection of essays by various Christian bloggers.

I put one item in this go around.

I took a quick look at the various topics and will take a closer look over the next few days.

Good job by Diane!

Devotional Thoughts: Confessions from an unexpected church youth group volunteer

Teaching junior high school kids is a challenge. They are developing the mental skills to follow along but they are, in the end, still middle school kids who at one moment can be paying attention and at another moment bouncing off the walls either in their minds or literally.

Once upon a time in human history, kids at that age worked the land on the farm or other forms of gainful employment. They had to grow up real fast. Today, they enter this extended limbo state that can extend out into college and graduate school. I'm a prime example of living in that limbo state as I went for a PhD and didn't get my first "real" job until I was thirty!

So on one hand, there is a delay in growing up but because of the high tech high speed life of the modern age, they are exposed to more stuff more quickly than at any other time in human history.

What is one to do with these kids in our youth program?

As I reflect on my role as a volunteer in our church's youth program, I am…

LA Scene: Tamale Festival

My latest post is up at LAFB and it is about the 2nd Annual LA Tamale Festival.

November 10, 11 & 12, 2006
Friday: 3pm - 8pm
Saturday:10am - 9pm
Sunday 11am - 6pm

MacArthur Park - Mama’s Hot Tamales Cafe
2124 West 7th Street, Los Angeles, Ca 90057
Between Parkview & Alvarado Street on 7th Street

Event web page.

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006 - Index & Impressions

Last week, I went to the Youth Specialties National Youth Workers Convention in Anaheim, California. It was a tremendous experience.

In sharing about the experience via email with some friends, I wrote this:Just wanted to say I had a wonderful time at YS-NYWC. I really went into the conference feeling pretty beaten down by life so the times of worship and challenge was much needed. God took a hammer and started to chip away at the many hard-edges in my life. I'm a work in progress and still got a ways to go but it was sooooo good to be reminded that God hasn't stopped working on me.

One of the training sessions I went to on middle school ministry, the speaker had us briefly break out into groups based on age... one cluster of people were the UNDER 20s(!) .... another was 30s .... there was a group of 40somethings (hooray!) ... a clutch of 50ish folks and yup, there was even a few in their 60s! The speaker also showed a photo of one of his volunteers: a 70 year old guy! A…

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006 - Sights and Sounds

The talented and lovely Vicky Beeching leading worship.

On the jumbotron, a portrait of Jesus that was painted while we sang worship songs during one of the general sessions.

One of the lively moments in general session when the band plays on.

Click here for a Quick Time movie of the David Crowder Band playing. It was shot from my camera phone so it isn't terrific but it captures the boundless energy of the assembled crowd!

Sorry, I can't remember which musician this is. The lighting of the scene caught my eye!

Philip Yancey spoke about prayer which is the subject of his latest book.

David Crowder doing what he does best.

Non-profit of the month: November 2006 - Nothing But Nets

I just donated. I hope you do too.

Life: Trying to keep a thankful heart

With all the "heavy" thoughts lately rattling around my mind, I have to stop for a moment and reboot! 8-0

I'm grateful for ...

Jesus and his love for me and all of us
sunshine - it's sunny today in LA!
good friends in life
crunchy apples
Dennis Prager's radio show
a job that pays the bills!
hot showers
thought provoking books
colorful ties

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006, Sunday

During general sessions, Mark Oestreicher, Tic Long and Jeanne Stevens took turns playing the role of emcee.

I'm not sure which one said it but I appreciate the honesty. I think it was Mark but I'm not sure. Anyway, someone said, this conference is diverse in terms of which part of the many branches of Christianity a speaker comes from and you will hear things you will agree with and somethings you will disagree with. I encourage you to hear everyone out and be sure your bovine scatology meter is fully operational!

In my 4 days there, I'd say far more often than not, I was encouraged and challenged by the speakers whatever their perspective. Occasionally, I'd hear something I wasn't sure I bought and once in a while something I disagreed with.

But back to the point on diversity: the general session speakers were all over the map. Not a one was identical in style or background. Each had something to say and moved me in some fashion. Sunday was no different.


Politics: Races I'm Watching Tonight

Will there be a democrat wave tonight?

Races I'm told to watch are as follows:
KY 3rd CD is held by the GOP
CT 2, 4 and 5 CDs are held by the GOP
KS 2nd CD is held by the GOP

If these all trend democrat, it could be a tidal wave.

In the Senate, the races to watch are:
Virginia, Missouri and Montana - these are all held by the GOP and if they go down it is a tidal wave.

UPDATE: It is a tidal wave...
KY 3rd went down 51-48
CT 2nd is a dead heat at 50-50
CT 4th is with the GOP 51-48 but still counting
CT 5th went down 56-44
KS 2nd went down 51-47

Meanwhile in the Senate ...
Virginia is going down 50-49 but still counting
Missouri is going down 49-48 but still counting
Montana is going down 51-47 but still counting

The last major shift in the House was 1994 when the GOP swept into power. The swing was 54-seats. As of now, the swing for the Democrats appears to be in the 30-ish range.

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006, Saturday

Saturday Morning

The AM session I attended had the title, "Communication that Connects: Teaching Effectively by Teaching Inductively" given by Craig Smith.

He cited the Veggie Tale phenomena produced by Big Idea Media. Indeed, he said that the secret of their success: the stories are built around one idea.

For teaching youth, one wants to try to identify from the Bible passage the ONE BIG IDEA they should get from it.

One way people teach is to tell them what they are going to say and then tell them. This is the standard deductive teaching method and this method has advantages and disadvantages and should be in the arsenal of every teacher.

However, he made his case for the inductive method. The main idea of the inductive teaching method is to show the various pieces of the puzzle to the student and journey with them and at the end, put it together. He also stressed the need to be creative in helping the Bible text comes to life. It is too easy to just dryly read it …

Politics: Rene's Ramblings' Recommendations on California Propositions


Previous posts on this topic are here and here.

UPDATE: As of 11:54 PM ...
Solidly passing: 1A, 1B, 1C, 1E, 83
Solidly defeated: 87, 88, 89
Winning: 1D, 84
Losing: 85, 86, 90

Politics: Clip from 2006 White House Correspondents Association Dinner

I guess I'm pretty late in getting this via email. But its still hilarious ... click here.

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006, Friday

I missed the afternoon session on Thursday so I joined part II of Dan Webster's presentation on The Unexpected Leadership Journey: Leading from the Pages of Your Life. Webster runs Authentic Leadership, Inc..

The metaphor he gave was that of a sailboat. Our lives are like them in that there is a part above the water which everyone sees and the part below that no one sees. Thus, in life, we have visible competency and our invisible character. In leadership (youth ministry or any other type of leadership), the part below the waterline is essential to pay attention to.

He also proposed that there is a six-phase cycle we work through periodically in our lives. Each is necessary and has different purposes and characteristics.

In brief, those six phases are: excitement, fundamentals, responsibility, bored-tired-disillusioned, introspection and renewal.

We could be in different phases in different parts of our life. In the presentation, he fleshed out these phases from his life expe…

Non-profit of the month: November 2006 - World Vision and The ONE Campaign

Have you heard of the One Campaign?

I know relativley little about it except that Bono and a number of notible people from both the right and left of the political spectrum are supporting it.

The idea is to encourage the US government to increase aid to the poor by 1%.

I recently was browsing on Mark D. Robert's blog and saw on his previous topics list his thoughts on the ONE campaign.

From his concluding remarks he wrote this:I believe the ONE Campaign offers a chance for millions of Americans to get personally involved in the war on poverty, right now. We don't have to wait for Congress to act. We can start today to make a difference. In fact, we can help save lives today. And we can do so by participating in the EIGHTY Campaign.

Haven't heard of this Campaign? No surprise, since I just made it up. Let me explain what it is.

Using very rough figures, if the ONE Campaign succeeds, and if the federal government votes to dedicate an additional one percent of its budget for povert…

Life: YS-NYWC Anaheim 2006, Thursday

I wish I could have gotten down to the convention right from the start. However, I got there in time to meet up with our church's team of volunteers for dinner and then to attend an evening worship time.

The 9PM Worship Together Concert featured the band Leeland from Texas and Vicky Beeching from London who now calls Nashville home.

For me, the most moving part of our time together was singing along with Leeland as they led us in a rockish-styled version of Amazing Grace. For those who don't know, the famed song Amazing Grace was written by John Newton who was a slave ship captain who became a Christian and turned against slavery. This is perhaps one of the most beloved hymn in the English language of all time whether it is sung a cappella, with bagpipes, with organ or in this case with rock band.

This was followed by a showing of the trailer for the film Amazing Grace, the story of William Wilberforce to be released in 2007. Wilberforce become an advocate in the English P…

Life: I'm back from YS-NYWC 2006 Anaheim

What a wonderful experience!

A huge shout out to our youth director for encouraging (pushing!) us to go and getting the church to cover the bulk of the costs.

I'm going to be processing those raw thoughts and then post them here for your edification.

Until then, I'll just say it was an awesome event that really moved me, encouraged me and challenged me!

If you ever have the chance to go to one of these events by all means go! Or financially support your youth pastor and the team of volunteers at your church to go! It's definitely worth it. Check out the promo videos to help convince yourself and others.

I had hoped to live blog or at least blog at the end of the day while at Youth Specialties National Youth Worker's Convention. Alas, the wireless internet at the hotel costs a bit of money and you can only buy access for a 24 hour period which really wouldn't have been economical with me as I would have posted only in the evenings and be online for relatively short p…

Life: YS-NYWC in Anaheim

Thursday-Sunday, I'll be at the Youth Specialties National Youth Worker Convention in Anaheim!

I might bring the laptop figuring the convention center might have wi-fi and I'll do live blogging?

We shall see!

Politics: Prop 90 Yes or No?

In a previous post, I mentioned that I was leaning Yes on 90.

However, one of my good friends said that though there is strong sentiment to restrain eminent domain, prop 90 might go too far hampering economic development.

So I'm moving from Yes??? to ???

I'm going to read up a bit more on it and come to a decision by Tuesday.

I'm open to being persuaded.

UPDATE: The coalition against 90 is pretty diverse. You got to wonder when enviro groups team up with chambers of commerce to oppose something.

UPDATE: Check the Yes on 90 web page.

UPDATE: Here is Weintraub's analysis of the proposition.

UPDATE: I'm going to go with a NO vote on this one.